Wiki World (almost) started

Update: list is up and you may join the list.

I started Wiki World as a project with a goal to gather people who want to talk about wiki in general. If you have a good idea for new project and you want to share your idea with others or you just want to talk about wiki philosophy — you are welcome!

A number of times I was looking into a good idea (mine or other’s) about the wiki project, but I didn’t see a relevant place to talk about it. A number of times I wanted to talk about some important thoughts related to wikis, but I didn’t feel comfortable to talk about it on any relevant existing list/wiki.

So, I asked people on foundation-l list what do they think about the idea that Wikimedia hosts such list. While I think that there are a lot of reasons why it is good, Erik was right when he said that Wikimedia Foundation servers are not enough independent place to host such list. So, I asked people from ibiblio to host the list and supporting wiki.

Project aim is not to be a separate entity, but a place where people involved in wiki world would be able to talk about everything related to wikis. Those people should govern the project, too.

At this moment only wiki is available at www.ibiblio.org/wikiworld/. List will come soon and I’ll announce it’s existence, too. Also, you may join the IRC channel #wikiworld on irc.freenode.net to talk about the project.

A lot of things are not defined yet. So, anyone who is willing to participate in the core development of the idea is welocme. You may use Wiki World wiki or you may send to me an email directly.

The rest of this text is the starting FAQ of the Wiki World. Of course, I am sure that the FAQ will change through the time. You may treat it as the first draft. And note that no one link to the wiki is working because there are only two pages there: Main Page and this FAQ.

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This document describes purpose of the Wiki World wiki and mailing list. Please, read it before you start to contribute. If you think that something should be added or changed, please, discuss this on the talk page. (Of course, feel free to make minor fixes without describing that on the talk page.)

This document describes purpose of the Wiki World wiki and mailing list. Please, read it before you start to contribute. If you think that something should be added or changed, please, discuss this on the talk page. (Of course, feel free to make minor fixes without describing that on the talk page.)

Joining the project

If you don’t know anything about Wiki World project, please skip this section and back again when you finish with reading other sections.

Wiki

Login or make an account. While it is still possible to edit pages anonymously, this option will be removed very soon. This is not a general purpose wiki.

While it is preferable to identify yourself with a real name, it is not mandatory. Of course, you may choose whatever username (and, of course, don’t check our patience with usernames).

Mailing list

Mailing list will come soon and this is the main medium for communication. This information will be available at the Main Page.

IRC

There is a channel #wikiworld at freenode.

Purpose

Wiki World is about wiki world

This is the only subject acceptable here. Of course, there are a lot of different subjects inside of that one. Also, you may talk about wiki from any kind of position, comparing whatever with wiki and so on. (If you want to make a joke about wiki, please do it. However, it is much better that you write it on your blog and to link it from the page which may be called list of wiki jokes.)

What wiki world is?

Wiki world is the sum of all wikis and projects around wikis. However, it is not the sum of all sites which have installed wiki software. Wiki assumes that anyone may change articles. So, if site just runs some wiki engine and it is not accessible for changes to a wide range of people, site is not qualified as a part of wiki world.

Wiki World covers only areas which other wikis don’t cover

Places like Wikia or Wikispaces (combined) allow creating any kind of wiki (however, they don’t use the same technology; however, it is possible to find some other wiki hosting on the Internet). Because of that, Wiki World is not a place for any kind of wiki content.

But, if you an idea for any kind of wiki project, you may describe it here. Also, if you don’t think that some of the free wiki providers are not acceptable for you, you may describe it inside of your idea. In general, if something is useful, it is not so hard to find a place for that.

Science method and verifiability

Please, note that everything which is noted that you may write here should be documented via links or quotes. If you are writing original research related to the wiki world, you have to follow scientific method.

Scientifically non-coherent researches and unsourced articles will be deleted.

Encyclopedias, dictionaries

Wiki World is not an encyclopedia; it is not a dictionary, too. If you want to contribute to some encyclopedia or dictionary, please find some from the list of wiki encyclopedias or list of wiki dictionaries and contribute there.

However, if there are some important terms related to wiki world, they should be described here.

Original research

Original research, original inventions, personal essays and journalism are not the parts of Wiki World’s goals. However, if any of them is related to the wiki world, it is more then welcome. (However, relations like “I want to put my [not related] idea on wiki” are not counted.)

Discussion forums and mailing lists

While it is not forbidden if it is according to the project’s goals, it is preferred to discuss on our mailing list, not here. However, ideas should be described here and the purpose of the talk pages are to discuss about article content. If there is need for forum options inside of this wiki, they will be added.

Soapbox

  • You may present your ideas related to the wiki world. However, keep in mind that this is not a platform for propaganda.
  • You may present your wiki project, or project which subject is (strongly) related to the wiki world. However, keep in mind that this is not a platform for commercials.
  • You may ask here if someone is interested to join your project. However, keep in mind that this is not a platform for recruitment.
  • You may present your political ideas if they are related to the wiki world. However, keep in mind that this wiki is not a soapbox.
  • You may present your work while it is related to the wiki world. However, keep in mind that this is not a platform for self-promotion.
  • You may add link(s) to your commercial wiki while they are well classified. However, keep in mind that this is not a platform for commercials.

Mirroring content

Wiki World doesn’t mirror content. However, if you think that some wiki project should be mirrored, this is the right place to talk about.

Social networking

This is not a place for social networking in a broader sense. However, it is a place for connecting people involved in different wiki projects.

This means that you may add on your page all of the data relevant to your wiki work, but it is preferable not to add anything extensive. For example, your email, link to your blog and other contact data are OK. But, do you prefer cookies or candies is not relevant for your page on this wiki.

If you want to make your own page on wiki, please, look at the list of wiki providers for personal pages.

Manuals, guides, textbooks and so on

This is not a place for making general manuals, guides or textbooks. However, if you want to write one about wiki world, please do it!

Crystal ball

Don’t use this wiki for general predictions. However, if you want to predict something related to the wiki world, please do it!

Significance of a wiki project

There is no matter is your wiki project small or big. While it is properly categorized, it is OK to list it here.

News

News reports related to wiki are welcome. Actually, it would be good to add extension which gets relevant feeds. This will be hosted while no one project wich such purpose doesn’t exist.

Trivia

You may add trivia related to the wiki world here. However, all of them should be sourced (a link to the source is mandatory). This will be hosted while no one project wich such purpose doesn’t exist.

Wiki World is not censored

This means that you may find a completely relevant link to some pornographic wiki or similar while it is properly categorized and while it is legal. Of course, this is not a place for hosting any kind of pornography or similar.

You will not find any disclaimer related to any kind of content which are acceptable according to be added here.

House rules

Bad faith, hate speech, trolling and similar

This is not a general purpose wiki and bad faith, hate speech, trolling and similar behavior are at the zero level tolerance. This is not a large project and people who express such behavior will be kicked out quickly. Note that this is the only procedure which describes actions toward such behavior.

Point of view

If you want to make some general article about some wiki related issue, please use neutral point of view as it is described on Wikipedia.

But, if you clearly state that article is written by you (article names like Something (by Milos Rancic), Something (by Millosh), User:Millosh/Something or so would be good enough). However, note that this is a wiki and that your words may be changed by someone else. It is better idea to write your article on some blog and to link it from the relevant page.

“Group point of view” is not acceptable (like Something (liberal POV), Something (conservative POV) or so). While it is acceptable to talk from some position, it is acceptable only if *you* are talking about that.

Hate speech, racism, intolerance etc. will not be tolerated.

Battleground

This wiki and the list are not a place for personal conflicts.

Governing

This wiki and the list should be a common good of all other wikis. Because of that, the main governing idea behind the project is that this wiki should to be governed by all relevant people from wiki world. Ideally almost all wiki projects in some proportion (or, at least, all relevant wiki projects) should delegate people for the governing body of this wiki.

According to that, this wiki should present political will of the wide range of people.

As wiki assumes that all people (with access to Internet) are able to edit the site, projects qualified for governing Wiki World have to be possible to be edited by anyone. This means that, for example, Wikitruth is not qualified for governing, while it is qualified as a relevant link.

Internal structure of the project is not a matter of Wiki World (up to the some level, of course). This means that projects like Citizendium are welcome in the governing body.

And, of course, project shouldn’t promote hate speech, racism and similar unacceptable behavior.

People inside of the governing bodies mustn’t be anonymous.

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~ by millosh on August 28, 2007.

4 Responses to “Wiki World (almost) started”

  1. Hi, A lot of the links in the post were to localhost (e.g. http://localhost/millosh/index.php?title=Wiki_World_talk:FAQ&action=edit ) – might want to update those to be valid links for readers. — All the best, Nick.

  2. When is someone going to start a business version of Wikipedia? Companies need a place to publish product and company information that does not have a NPOV.

  3. Nick, thanks. I prepared document at my local wiki 🙂 I’ll fix it.

    Alexander, technically, it is possible to make “commercial Wikipedia” until it stays under GFDL. However, a lot of infrastructure is needed to keep up to date articles. Also, take a look at http://wikiindex.org/ — maybe such place already exists.

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